Palin pardons turkey as bird bleeds out on camera

I won't watch the video.  The description is enough. 

I grew up in NYC, so my idea of "fresh meat" is something that comes on a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic.   

Ok....I am serious...NO ONE, but no one with oposing thumbs is this stupid, other than BUSH! 

I loved listening to the irony of her statements with the activity in the background. Classic Palin preserved forever.

I have to say that I think that it is more the fault of the camera person or the producer then her but she should have been more careful about where she stood with the background especially on at poultry farm.

She is not the brightest bulb in the pack.

According to someone in the know, she Ok'd the shot...Maybe it was a metaphor for her 2012 campaign?

News at 11:00

Bob the Decapitator tells us "Yo, where do you think cold cuts come from, yo"

... so my idea of "fresh meat" is something that comes on a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic.

Do you not see an issue with that?  You are okay eating meat as long as you have no idea how it gets onto the styrofoam tray.   You just ignore the fact that animals are raised, killed, and cut into parts as part of the whole eating meat thing.

I am just amazed that someone is willing to profess ignorance of how their food ends up on the table.  Do you trust the USDA that much?

I have no trouble eating meat, but then again I have no trouble killing the animal that is going to provide the meat, butchering it myself, and preparing it for storage and/or cooking.  For the same reasons, I will not eat veal or fois gras.  I have seen the pens that house the suffering animals that provide veal.  There is a moral distinction between eating chicken or beef and eating veal, and it has to do with how the animal is treated.

Domestic turkey is almost to that point as they have been bred for such large breasts that they have difficultly walking.  I rather just shoot a wild turkey and eat that.

Do you not see an issue with that?

Nope, not really.   I am fully aware of what animal the meat comes from and how it gets on the tray - I just don't need a visual reminder of it when I'm trying to eat my dinner.

Besides, NYC has always been VERY good about food safety, at least in my lifetime.  Better than the FDA/USDA, in fact.  

Of course, I now live in PA, so I'm more watchful here, just because I'm not as familiar with their safety record regarding food.   But I stick to larger supermarket chains where the shelf turnover is always relatively good, so I still don't worry too much.   

Most of all, I trust my own eyes.  If the meat doesn't look right, or is within a day of expiration, I don't buy it.  I buy fish at places where I know they get a fresh delivery every day.  I don't buy dented cans, boxes that have any creases or slashes from the box cutter, etc.  As much as possible, I buy food in clear containers (plastic bags, jars) so I can clearly see what I'm getting. 

Any meat served in my house is cooked through (well done, in fact), so there's no risk of getting sick from undercooked meat.  Fresh vegetables are washed in cold water and scrubbed with a veggie brush, and any questionable spots are cut out.  Most of all, if anything looks, smells, or tastes even slightly off - it goes in the trash. 

I've made it through 47 years without a single case of food poisoning, and without anyone eating at my table ever getting sick from something I served.  That's good enough for me.

PS - the comment I made was an attempt at self-deprecating humor.  Lighten up!

If the meat doesn't look right?.............there is so much red dye in meat you would probably puke if you knew what it really looked like after a few days...........The best way to check?.........the smell...........

Geez, does she ever speak English appropriately? 

I'm beginning to think the only reason she won the Governor's seat was that no one ever really knew what she was saying (including her!).

I've seen footage from when she was a tv news sportscaster.  She is perfectly capable of speaking without the dialect for which she has become famous.  I tend to believe her dialect is more of a folksy affectation than the way she would normally speak.  I say that as someone who is a dialect chameleon myself.  If I'm around someone long enough, I can easily start talking like they do.  My wife can always tell when I've been hanging out with my British or German friends because for a while after I get home I'll still be subtly using their dialect.

Do you mean her dialect is fake? Who knew?<wink> I guess she thinks it the perfect accessory to wear!  I was laughing so hard, I had to watch 3 times just to get all that she said.

It's not even the dialect that is annoying. I don't mind the dialect--I actually kind of like it. I mind that she speaks in circles. Round and round. She is so wordy and says "also" like 10 times in every interview. She's just not the most articulate.

..says "also" like ten times in every interview.

This is because of Alaska's nearness to Canada. Proximity, also.

Don't blame that on the Canuks, eh....

Living in Michigan, I have noticed that Canadians also say "eh" a lot also. Too. In addition with.

I don't really notice it very much, but then again I spent my first 50 years in Canada. My wife, on the other hand, says she heard it a lot when she was crossing the border.

Fortunately I don't use the "eh" so I only have to be teased about my OUts and abOUts.

Well, Americans say, "like" (as I did) and "sort of" all the time as well.

Well in hockey ...........the Canadiens have the first period... the second period.......and the TURD period.............I kid you not...........and they say  eh all the tiime............Don't you remember  THE GREAT WHITE NORTH on SCTV...(Second City Television)...with Rick Moranis and Dave Thomas as the McKenzie Brothers?  Bob and Doug....................I don't think they ever finished a sentence without saying EH..............funny as hell.............Dave Thomas did a GREAT Bob Hope as well...........Best Ever..............

I don't think that I have yet heard her refer to jobs as a three letter word.

Ask her if she had a chance to campaign in all 57 states. I think that the President elect must have been counting Mexico, Venezuela and oh yeah probably the countries involved in NAFTA. I don't know maybe he is counting the MiddleEastern Arab Muslim states that so graciously donated to his campaign coffers.

I think that the President elect must have been counting Mexico, Venezuela and oh yeah probably the countries involved in NAFTA

That would've been a decent observation had Mexico not been a part of NAFTA.

That's just great...........so what's for thanksgiving.....a box of chocolates?

That's not it, we all know what the deal is here, but most people pardoning animals or people don't let themselves get taped during an actual decapitation not even 5 minutes later....

I have personally wrung the necks of chickens ...

I believe a lot of that squaking you hear in the back-ground is someone keeping the business going.

Hey............We had a missing cat problem around our neighborhood for a while.............Apparently the Vietnamese family that had just moved in down the street.........they  didn't realize they were somebody's  pet........And when the Korean family moved in..... people kept their dogs in the house for a few weeks.........Hey .......they didn't know.........After the dust cleared.............they were warmlywelcomed into the neighborhood....

As far as the gaff with Sarah Palin.........Sh#t Happens...............My brother the Fire Chief and his crew were on a house call..............they had some rookies going out on their first  fire................So when the trucks pull up to this house a blazing.............one  rookie slaps of his oxygen tanks and mask....... along with the others and he goes  inside to make sure everyone got out safely.....................Well............ the whole family was standing on the front lawn...... Mom,dad and the crying kids were heartbroken holding each other..............So the rookie fireman comes running out of the house  and gets to the front yard.....rips off his mask .....and shouts.........MAN... THIS IS B I T C H E N ............I believe my brother gave him a talk on professional etiquette when they got back to the station....................

And you know folks.........Sarah was just a Governor of a state............she gets a call............. and is asked to be VP canidate........She agrees and campaigns during the election.....By the way ...the election is over.......Regardless of what you think of her..... I feel she did her best and spoke from the heart........... Sarah has gone back to her duties in Alaska....she is still a wife........... and still a Mom...........let it go people..... move on........there are greater tasks at hand........making fun of people just because you don't like them breeds hatred..............

It would be easier to "let it go" if she'd crawl back into her hole in Alaska and stay there.  We didn't ask her to come out!  I love how the Palin defenders keep telling everyone to let it go, "Why do you have to keep making fun of her?"- Well, because every time we turn around, she's on TV doing something stupid, and if we don't say something, her defenders will elect her President at some point.  It's our civic duty to point out her idiocy.  She could go back and do her job and stare off into the distance at Russia and all of this would stop.

Thank you ....you proved my point............civic duty....whatever

Actually, you have no point.  That's part of your charm.  Thank you, though, for the lovely stereotype-inforcing stories about the Vietnamese and Koreans.  What next, African-Americans stealing your watermelon?  (Sigh) It is all so crystal clear now why you like Palin.

Ya know...................I knew I should have done 3 separate posts instead of combining the 3 stories and thoughts...........My brothers firemen story is a pretty funny......as far as the rookie goes............sad that the family lost the house......but funny as hell as far as SNAFU'S go...........MAN THAT WAS B I T C H E N .............................

I never said I liked Palin....NEVER......no where on any vine......I just think she is getting hammered by a bunch of name calling children and feel  it is unfair and over the top.........I do however.... find her homespun demeanor quite refreshing and think she is a fine looking women........So put that statement of yours to rest...you are wrong......got it?...Is that crystal clear enough?.....Her  looks and personality are something I view different than her political stance....................

And you tell Sarah to crawl back into her hole...?  The American State of Alaska...?............go fish...............At least you  you are right about one thing............you didn't ask her to come out of her so called hole.............McCain did .............and she acccepted the challenge and did her duty as an American citizen..........and if you don't like the ticket ....don't vote for them........ain't that hard....ya think............

And you openly admit ........you have to keep making fun of her....IT'S MY CIVIC DUTY.....how sick is that ...what a waste of time.......where does that rate on your CIVIC DUTY TO DO LIST.....#1 ?.......that's the best you got going in your life?.........and you say we have to do this because her defenders will elect her President someday.........what the hell is freakin' you out.........if she were as stupid  as you claim............ I would WANT her to be the next Republican Candidate and guarantee a Democratic victory......ya following me there camera guy.......That's my point...sorry if you don't GET IT.............So..........how did you put it........oh yeah........thank you for your lovely stereotype of successful women....Good lookin' and Stupid.......next time I'll vote for the ugly,smart one.

And your racist remark about Blacks and watermelon is completely off base and uncalled for......fact is..... many people all over the world eat foods that we wouldn't dream of......bugs ....beetles.....maggot cheese.....dogs...cats.....monkeys......that's not a stereotype...it's reality...........and a normal way of life for them........Blacks and Watermelon???.... that was your half baked remark........ not mine..........but you seem quite used to making fun of people...........

Oh, you are quite the inciter, aren't you?  How inspiring. 

I just think she is getting hammered by a bunch of name calling children and feel  it is unfair and over the top.

Name calling?  When?  So, are you suggesting that she is above criticism?  Is she above ridicule for her actions?  You make it sound like people are harping on things she did 3 months ago solely.  The criticisms would've stopped, largely, if she had stopped doing national interviews, stopped doing staged TV spots- which, she is doing to keep her name out there for '12.  She is asking for this, she's not some lost puppy dog in need of your protection.

Her  looks and personality are something I view different than her political stance....................

How refreshing.  Although, no one else had mentioned her looks until you- but it is nice to know that you are able to separate the two and treat her as if she were a real human being.  Wow, a woman can be good looking AND intelligent and successful?  How cosmopolitan an idea from you.  You're such a gentleman.  Curious- Do you project ALL of your discriminatory feelings on others, or just a chosen few?

and she acccepted the challenge and did her duty as an American citizen

What duty was that?  Accept the nomination of VP and then hop around the country spewing salacious and malicious lies?  Wow.  How 'Patriotic' of her!  She must be one of those 'Real Americans' we hear so much about here in Communist California (Oh, I wait with baited breath your witty California cutdown).  As if she did this without a thought as to her own political advancement.  You make her sound like Mother Theresa.

you have to keep making fun of her....IT'S MY CIVIC DUTY.....how sick is that ...what a waste of time.......where does that rate on your CIVIC DUTY TO DO LIST.....#1 ?.......that's the best you got going in your life?.........

Yes, civic duty.  Much like, apparently, you feel it is your civic duty to come in here and spew your comments and derision.  Oh, but wait- you're such a positive voice, aren't you?  Because we get so much from your tripe.  Spare me.  How does that rate on your 'To do list'?

and you say we have to do this because her defenders will elect her President someday.........what the hell is freakin' you out.........if she were as stupid  as you claim............ I would WANT her to be the next Republican Candidate and guarantee a Democratic victory......

Here's a thought- I would like both parties to nominate the BEST that they have to offer.  What a premise!  Not the one that would soothe a base or possibly win some of the women voters from the other party- but THE BEST THEY HAVE TO OFFER!  If my candidate were to lose, I would hope that the winning ticket were the brightest and most qualified that the other side could produce.  I don't want my candidate to run against Jed Clampett just to ensure victory.  I would hope that the competition would bring out the best in both parties.  But, I'm sure that idea is beyond you...

thank you for your lovely stereotype of successful women....Good lookin' and Stupid.

Umm again, I never mentioned her looks, you did.  And, I never grouped ALL women under any part of this.  I commented on the Governor of Alaska, and the Governor alone.  Fact is, there were other women in her party that were more qualified for the VP nomination.  I don't give a second thought as to whether or not women could (or should) ascend to the highest office in the land- they are certainly no less and no more qualified than men to do so.  In fact, we very well might be better off- especially given the last eight years.  I was raised by my Mother, so I am very familiar with the intelligence, strength, compassion and ability to lead that women possess.  So, the stereotyping there is yours and yours alone.  Nice job of projecting again, though.

And your racist remark about Blacks and watermelon is completely off base and uncalled for......

I didn't make a "comment", merely asked you if this was your next racially motivated stereotype to throw out completely out of context.  And food is, unfortunately, a stereotype, just like how you harped on.  It's stupid, incorrect and boorish, but it is still, nevertheless, a sterotype.  Much like the ones you made about Koreans and the Vienamese.  See how those tied intogether?  I knew you could.  Nice cover, though, turning it on me.

but you seem quite used to making fun of people...........

Yeah, when a public figure puts their foot in their mouth, I will poke fun.  Sometimes humor is the best way to educate and to learn, but I'm sure that is lost on you.  Maybe you should watch Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, Bill Maher, Jay Leno, etc., etc.  Poking fun of politicians is actually a pretty popular (and possibly lucrative pasttime).  At least humor is a little less offensive than your denigrating rhetoric.

so what's your point?........................Ah California.........the land of friuts and nuts,....it's my Civic Duty on the Vine to call out the wack jobs who spew false accusations and innuendoes...........You may not like what I write but I sure got you to bust a nut....................so continue with your mindless palaver and do your hundred yard dash in a circle...your getting nowhere fast..............Inciter? ..................no I just speak my mind..............if it incites you...........well..............that's a YOU problem..........musta' struck a nerve.....................

Ummmm.....sure.  Nice word, palaver, BTW

Actually I'm more partial to the word panglossian .......this idiotic belief of yours that saving a turkey and making fun of people is a civic dutyof yours.......I'm still laughing.....If you choose to make fun of politicians ...knock yourself out.......... people like....... Bill Maher...Al Franken...................Rosie O'Donnel......Michael Moore.....that's where the humor is.. all jokes all the time.........everyone of them..........please indulge us in another cut and paste job and finish your manifesto...........come on........ give us one of your watermelon jokes again............come on........... spew another jocular comment like your 4.5.......yeah.......... you were really trying to be funny.........problem with people like you who try to be funny.....they always have to ask themselves if people are laughing with me or at me.............manifesto away

Oooooh, somebody's all the way to P in 'Word of the Day'!  You must be SO proud.  Make sure to look up a couple more while you're at it...

......rambling.....bizarre....inappropriate....unbecoming....unsuitable....incoherent....unintelligible

problem with people like you who try to be funny.....they always have to ask themselves if people are laughing with me or at me

Well, at least by your "reasoning" here, I would have to ask.  Fill...in....the....blanks there if you can.......Big guy.  Call if you need help connecting the dots.

Precisely my point...........you are ..oh how shall I say...pragmatic with an overtone of an archaic attempt at humor......................for a person who states he can't seem to understand my points of view.............you sure spend a insurmountable amount of time responding to it there cowboy...................come on..... please.. please.. please.....do another cut and paste for me.........how about one of them good watermelon jokes.......oh.. oh ...I know....why did the turkey cross the road............to get away from Sarah Palin........or was that a chicken......whatever.............anyways...........on with your CIVIC DUTY......the country is depending on you.................

Oh By The Way.......I tried looking up all those words you said.......... but I couldn't find them in the "P" section

Oh....... and one more.......... By The Way....your 4.13 was in response to my 4.12....you get your butt hammered and you got nothin'.........dude check you battery pack...... your cells seem a bit weak pehaps you can connect the dots with a little morse code     ... - - - ...        ...- - -...   ...- - -... 

Oh my, you are more than just a little touched, aren't you?  Hey, here's an idear- complete sentences- they make it soooo much easier to communicate!  Try it sometime, buddy.

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Ohhhh, sooo close!

It's a freaking turkey...........give it a rest........hell...wait till you watch'em bleed a pig.........dang..didn't realize he had that much blood left in'em

disgusting, prefer not to watch a pig bleed out either, but you feel free to watch all you want.

Dig, very insensitive. Bubbie could be a vegetarian.

Never bled out a pig ... we did bleed out deer before skinning and cutting up for the freezer.

Hey Johnson did you bleed out the indians before eating their liver?

Watch the pig bleed?.........Hell ...after that..... we strung him up on the old swing set and made pork chops............Bacon too......

Best part about getting a deer is fresh heart and liver in the morning with your eggs.

LOL

Watch the pig bleed?.........Hell ...after that..... we strung him up on the old swing set and made pork chops............Bacon too......

once upon a time a friend of mine actually hung his deer from the upstairs apartment patio railing.

as stories go ... **sing song** ... I got you be-eet

I am Jeremiah Johnson and "It's What's For Dinner"

Personally......I wish Sarah would have grabbed a loaded blunderbuss and said........... here turkey turkey....BLAM............one stuffed bird for dinner..........As a kid growing up .................Old Man Spracklen had a chicken ranch........raising eggs...........he had an old stump out back and would occasionally grab a bird by the feet and lay it's head on the chopping block...............WHAM....headless chicken............and they really do run around with their head cut off...............

Seems there are more favorable ways to promote a business rather than showing the turkey's demise. That was so much fun. This just shows the true meaning of "clueless".

I'm thinking a lot of the negative comments are coming from people that think Dinner comes pre-wrapped and ready to package off some sort of vine or tree limb.

Not at all.  Negative comments are coming from the description of "fun" and promoting  business. I would love to know any store selling meats and such advertising the way they get to the dinner table.

Does that include babies...the human type.

Nearing,

then post a Opinion Post story about Palin and cruelty to animals. There is enough in that story and in her life to show she doesn't seem to care.

Posting this particular story about how a turkey bleeds out on camera within sight of Palin doesn't register on my Palin Groan meter. This is the sort of things she did before she got the call from Mac. Your seeding it here sends a message to the media that you still want to see stories about Sarah Palin.

I know it's tough for many people to get the woman out of their lives but you can trust me on this and you should take a hint from digadogabone that you own the remote. You have the power to switch internet news stories off and thereby recover your sanity.

If you come across a news item about Sarah Palin and a new attempt to try and collect a dime per gallon from oil and gas sales to give to the people in the State of Alaska ...

in the meantime, this is perfectly normal behaviour for millions of people cameras rolling or not.

Yep....give it a rest.   So, where does all the grocery store poultry, beef and pork originate and how does it make it into those styrofoam packages??

Probably was the camera person's angle.....then again....is possible Palin agreed for the 'ag' background....and didn't have a clue...that the poultry processing was going on within full view of the rolling camera. 

So, wonder if that freshly processed turkey will be on YOUR table...??

Happy Thanksgiving!!!

Does that include babies...the human type.

Completely inappropriate.

Sorry you feel that way, Nearing.... There are 5,500,000,000 billions of people in this world who desperately need to partake of the spoils of th slaughter of animals in order to survive and not starve.

Well nothing better than a thick juicy steak and a bottle of beer.....I get out on the ocean and deep sea fish as well.....nothing like hauling in an 85 pound tuna and smoking that bad boy for a few days...that goes great wih beer to.............moose stew would be worth a try as well............hey straight or gay....vegetarian or carnivore.......like DEVO says...Freedom of Choice..............................it's like Almond Joy....sometimes you feel like a nut....... and sometimes you don't...............some people chow down on meat and some won't............

Actually much of the worlds poor can't afford meat, it is also too costly to produce from the perspective of someone living in poverty...

There are only 6 billion people in the world.

and brkfstclblvr.............I think my question about babies....the human type........is a valid question....what...... you gonna march in the Save a Turkey Eat a Pine Cone Parade?  Right after you pay a visit to the free clinic?   People are so hell bent on saving a cow or a turkey........... I merely posed the question about human life.....for crying out loud.........we put race horses out to pasture and euthanize Granny..........we save a turkey....and have an abortion.........sounds pretty wack to me...ya think....

 So Nearings basic response....if I am reading her correctly........was that as long as the baby has a perception of the senses and a nervous system..... she would do the child no harm.............a child has both in a mothers womb...........that was what I was getting at......How can a woman save a turkey and get a partial birth abortion at the same time................

how did abortion become part of this topic ?

I am not really sure... apparently if you don't eat meat, you can't respect a woman's right to choose. And apparently if you do respect a woman's right to chooose, you must be going to get abortions on a regular basis. If I am following the logic correctly.

wowie I need a map to follow ...

No.......Nearing made a statement that sentient beings have a right to life......I simply ask if that included humans...her answer was....  "of course".....and sentient beings would include the unborn..........so I was wondering if some people were in favor of saving turkeys and condoned abortion...........a little wacked in the head if people said yes to both........JMO...naturally

ok I get it and it is like being against abortion but for the death penalty.

death penalty for turkeys or humans?............apparently a map is in order for you.

very clever ...but you missed the point.

and brkfstclblvr.............I think my question about babies....the human type........is a valid question....what...... you gonna march in the Save a Turkey Eat a Pine Cone Parade?  Right after you pay a visit to the free clinic? 

Yep, clearly you're getting a good response.

JJ, I would seeded this even it it wasn't Palin that did this.  You could place just about any politican or celebrity or even someone I don't know in her shoes and her them say what she did in the same situation and it would have been horrible to me.

But don't you see???

If it wasn't Sarah Palin this story would never have even made it past your own meters.

You've been duped into keeping her name alive and active by the careful manipulation of your feelings for this subject. Which is exactly what I already said once before up above.

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Where does that number come from, JJ?

Humans do not need to eat animal flesh to live.

Nearing ... if it walks, talks, crawls, ain't been dead too long and requires Oxygen to breathe either in atmo or under water or inside a rock in a drop of water , it's an animal and the animal world includes the fishes and the insects and the worms and the bacteria.

As a vegetarian, did you know you are responsible for the slaughter of hundreds of pounds of animals yearly just to partake in a Caeser Salad? There is no such thing as a bloodless Salad Bar. They are even genetically altering plants to kill insects ... and what of the birds that eat the insects that ate the poison plants ... sheesh, woman, The Slaughter of Innocents goes much deeper than any rabbit hole Alice ever fell into

Now if you want to start a discussion on the slaughter of sentient beings or animals to fill the dinner plate, we can almost rule out bacteria ... thought some people believe bacteria display a type of intelligence. :)

I am Jeremiah Johnson and I welcome a discussion on sentience and the slaughter of animals, Great and Small, to allow vegetarians to get all huffy with outrage as they falsely claim they aren't hurting anything.

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Nearing, if you eat anything other than a rock -- and mind you now, certain areas of the human experience believe even rocks feel pain -- you are hurting something.

Pain is an electrical signal sent to the nerve centers of every living organism to cause it to flee or fight in the case of most animals, to healing in the case of plants and trees etc.

Let's be truthful here, something has to die in order that you live.

I love your seeds. I've commented many a time. I believe you've been manipulated by the Palin for President - War Machine with a skillful shot of a turkey being slaughtered for someone's dinner in Louisville while mz Palin grins at her accomplishment at pardoning a turkey in a slaughter house.

We know you. We, being your regular followers, and some of us might have preferred you to put this up as a commentary on her hypocrisy instead of an outrage at a live slaughter on camera?

We get it. You're a vegetarian. Most of us probably are not. You take the road of alienating those of us that love the meat and have no qualms about where it comes from while going after Palin for engaging in behaviour that is perfectly normal and without that  we would not be here today in this discussion.

Imagine that, if early tribes of man had decided to hold a discussion about the ethics and morality and health needs of the people just before they went out and slaughtered a North American Mammoth for lunch during the Ice Age when the nutritional value of the plants you value so much would have meant you must eat fifty pounds of greens to get the equivalent amount of energy and proteins for life that can be found in just a few punds of red meat?

I am Jeremiah Johnson and without the high value of nutrition to be found in red meat, we would all have died out during the last Ice Age or even earlier.

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Ummm, I believe this seed was about Palin (Not so much her hypocrisy, but her lack of common sense), and NOT about Vegetarianism or the pros and cons of red meat.  At least until you guys hijacked the thread and started talking about kill methods and bleedings and such.

We get it. You're a vegetarian. Most of us probably are not. You take the road of alienating those of us that love the meat and have no qualms about where it comes from while going after Palin for engaging in behaviour that is perfectly normal and without that  we would not be here today in this discussion

You are totally off the mark here. I am a liberal, red-meat eating individual, not a vegetarian and I found this just distaseful. She is a public figure (as much as some of us dislike it) and as such, she must do things that make her a universal figure. 

Crap.

brkfstclblvr ... my comment was directed at Nearing of whom I have had a lot of pleasure reading and the utmost respect for her seeds and efforts to keep us up to date with discussions that are important.

Since you took the time to post what you did, let me continue from "crap".

Despite the fact that Sarah Palin is Governor of Alaska and therefore a public figure, she puts her pants on just like the rest of us. Anybody fawing over Mz Palin and expecting her to act like some sort of hollywood movie queen whose **** doesn't stink just like the rest of us is deluded by said same hollywood fantasies.

You find it distasteful ??? your opinion is noted. Please note that there are programs on History.Science.NationalGeographic that depict the slaughter of animals that are way more graphic than this local alaskan tv spot. You think those fish are dead when they are tossed into the holds of those ships. You think they don't catch sharks and dolphins by mistake and accidently kill those as well?

i give up

Nearing,

I love ya, but hey, I have to disagree!  We here in the south have been raising cattle, goats, and other such vegetarians on grass.  Good lord gives it plentifully and no need for grain.  Man has lived a many of centuries eating animals as part of the food chain and our global warning issue is pretty much from our own abuses of mother earth. We also know how to reuse that pesty feces that they leave behind, its called natural fertilizer and will help reap the best crops if used properly. (Yes I'm sorry to say the good Lord had a plan for all of it). Please actually see some things done in person before you base everything you read as fact. 

 Since your into facts my good friend let me share this one with ya.  I work in a large metropolitan area, in the summer the heat from asphalt, concrete, windows, etc.  keeps the metropolitan area extremely hot even after the sun goes down, however when I leave the city and drive to my home 20 miles out in the suburban area, the temperature gets significantly lower.  That is because I have traveled out of the area where a majority of the structures and landscape is made from heat reflecting materials, again, asphalt, concrete, glass windows, etc.  All of these things contribute to global warming and the fact that every time you look up they are building and going further out in the rural areas therefore killing off pasture lands, cutting down trees, etc.  Just as you mentioned the destroying of the amazon forest, they are cutting them down to sell the timber and create more space for villages. 

Animals needless to say were given as food sources.  But I will think about the displeasure you find in it the next time I sit down to a side of bacon, grits, biscuits,(homemade) eggs, fruit and coffee or tonight when I sit down at my dinner table after whipping 1/4 of a bull's butt off my grill and on to my plate.  :))))))))))))

I am Southern Bell and I wish you could all come for dinner!

brkfstclblvr ... my comment was directed at Nearing of whom I have had a lot of pleasure reading and the utmost respect for her seeds and efforts to keep us up to date with discussions that are important.

Suddenly I'm not allowed to interject? I think not. That's the beauty of the vine! However considering your rude tone and objection to me engaging in the conversation, I will leave the response to nearing. Pardon me if I ignore your comments in the future, Jeremiah.

Yes, thank you too.

I would have been much more impressed if she actually wrung one of those turkeys necks in closing and said

"Turkey. It's what's for dinner, boys. Let's Eat"

I wonder how many brain cells it takes for a good camera person to take one step to the right and center a shot instead of using half of their frame to make SURE to get in on the turkey shot.  Or how many brain cells it takes the man to step to the end of the table and TURN AND SMILE at the camera making sure they get the shot before stepping back where he normally stands with his back to the camera to do the work he would normally do?

And how many brain cells it takes for the man at the butcher table to do all of this while he chews gum?

That's true. *grin*

I usually like a more suitable background when someone is taking pictures of me, ya know flowers, nice in-home shot with normal homely things in the background (book shelves, pictures, etc. 

I think most would have taken in consideration the place, the atmosphere and what is happening at the time when taking and posing for pictures, especially on video cameras.  Think she would have noticed the butchery going on and decided, "Ya know maybe I should move over on this side".  I mean for nothing else than to escape getting blood, feces, feathers, etc. on her nice new cloths.  Oh my bad she gave them back didn't she?

Geez where did you think turkeys came from that are put in the grocery store or if you order one already cooked.  I, as a kid, would watch my grandfather wring a chickens neck to cook for Sunday dinner.  Still can't get enough of Sarah can ya?

Who? The turkey or Palin?

;)

But Agent, in this particular instance, the issue isn't what's done to the Turkeys or how, but whether the Governor of Alaska- the former Vice Presidential candidate- should have had enough sense (When asked) to suggest shooting from a different angle or a different location.  It's not a huge deal, just inappropriate.  And, another in a long line of questionable decisions made by Mrs. Palin over the last few months.  I actually thought that before the turkey execution, she was better than I've seen in a long while in issuing the pardon.  More relaxed and natural (Though I don't believe for a second that she knew that Franklin pushed for the turkey to be the Nation's symbol over the Bald Eagle).

bejeebies your are 100% correct-after watching the video I have changed my thought on this.

I'm sorry--I should have said tired of all of "the hating"  not anyone personally. I had a "moment. *sheepish grin*

AMEN..............BONNIE....the girl GETS IT....have a nice Thanksgiving....bird and all.............

I'm sick of all ya bunch of haters. .....

..... Sorta like looking for that girl's smile on that Cruise commercial.

It is.

without all that went in between, this is a good observation of the content of this thread from people that three weeks ago were rejoicing that Sarah Palin boarded a plane to Alaska and back to her humble beginnings never to torment us (fingers crossed) ever again.

My Grandma could walk out to the chicken house, get one by the neck with one hand and do some kinda quick wrist flip and instantly break it's neck. No pain or cruelty.  They raised and grew everything they ate during the depression. Said they never even realized they were poor. ; )

Geez Bonnie,

My Grandma use to grab a duck, chop its head off, hang it to catch the blood, while us kids were running around like monkeys, and make the best czarnina [duck blood soup] you ever tasted.

She chopped their heads off afterwards. I hated it when she made us pull the pin feathers out after she was through with the major plucking. She gave me a pair of pliers. LOL.

It made a "real" woman out of you, didn't it? Toughened you up for whatever life through at ya'.

Anything gets in your way, chops its head off and grap them pliers to finish off the job....LOL!!

Is that where the phrase "Choke the Chicken "  came from............or is that Spank the Monkey..........

"Choke the Chicken"

That one I heard many moons ago but;

"Spank the Monkey..."

That one I heard just a few days ago and cracked my ass up. You men come up with the funniest names, phrases and descriptions of your "thang".

OR, DKAZ, -you could

FLOG THE DOLPHIN

Done it with rabbits as well.......................

I'm sure you have

Done it with rabbits as well.......................

I'm sure you have

LOL............You two are better than Martin & Lewis.

how come you think they got long ears?

how come you think they got long ears?

If there really is a God, please- PLEASE- let this be a rhetorical question....

LONG EARS????

oh get your mind out of the gutter.........When we would go hunting for jack rabbits with our shot guns............. we would pick them up by the ears and whip their head back and snap it like a bull whip....just to make sure they were dead and not in any pain..........

Dig,

That was very humane of you. I did the same thing to my ex. I wanted to leave him in no pain......[blink, blink, blink]

 this spot wasn't taped for a national audience

Palin said we invite the criticism. She knew it would go public. Nothing she does this day is shown only on local news.

I find it somewhat distasteful, although more funny than anything.

P.S. I did hear a story about a guy's little girl who did run screaming from the room.

I find it somewhat distasteful, although more funny than anything.

I actually think it's pathetic in a humorous way. The woman needs desperatly stay in the lime-light for 30 more months.

The other thing I find outrageously silly is the numbers of people that are incensed  that the killing of an animal for food that will be on the tables of 250 million americans at some point in the next few weeks was broadcast on televison. If anyone doesn't know where their food supply comes from by now, they most assuredly should stop pounding on Palin for her lack of knowledge on whether or not Africa is a country.

I am Jeremiah Johnson and um um good ... Turkey. It's what's for dinner, folks. Dig in.

The other thing I find outrageously silly is the numbers of people that are incensed  that the killing of an animal for food that will be on the tables of 250 million americans at some point in the next few weeks was broadcast on televison

Do you need to see the process of your surgery to know your triple-bypass worked out, do ya?

I hire someone to cut up my turkey so I don't have to do it myself and see the process, just as you would hire me to perform surgery on your for the same reason. I say--you get over it. I'm allowed to be grossed out.

I say--you get over it. I'm allowed to be grossed out.

You are allowed to be grossed out only if you were forcibly tied to a chair with toothpicks holding your eyelids open and your head clamped to keep you from turning away.

did that happen or did you click the link and watch the video?

You are allowed to be grossed out only if you were forcibly tied to a chair with toothpicks holding your eyelids open and your head clamped to keep you from turning away

Wrong. I can watch what I want and be grossed out by what I want. Free country.

LOL

I think it's interesting and a bit hilarious that you want the freedom to watch what you want and be grossed out by same and then complain about it after being warned you would be grossed out.

I am Jeremiah Johnson and I think I've crossed your bridge before.

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I think it's interesting and a bit hilarious that you want the freedom to watch what you want and be grossed out by same and then complain about it after being warned you would be grossed out

I was never warned. Palin pardoned the Turkey and I thought it was cool. Then I continued to watch the rest of the interview on my local news, and saw the turkey in the background. Cringed, laughed and turned the channel.

I found it distasteful--am allowed to feel that way. It's the same way Palin and her supporters feel like they are the victims because she was under the bus after she's made herself out to be a fool.

If by "attractive" you mean bottle-haired, $150,000 clothed and made-up, then, yes. If by "successful" you mean she is governor of a state that's mostly managed by the federal government, she was picked for an office beyond her grasp, and that she has lots of snow where she comes from and she dumped that snow on a lot of gullible people, then, yes. If by "educated" you mean with a 15-word vocabulary, then, yes. If by "proud" you mean oblivious, then, yes. If by "energetic" you mean filling time with useless activity, then, yes. If by "accomplishe mother" you mean, well, accomplished mother, then, yes.

She stole my boyfriend in high school.

No she didn't. I did. He was cheating on you anyway. You deserved better.

Well nearing,

It's time to throw that damn book out and pick up a new one. Start a new chapter. Burn the others.