Under Iraq troop pact, U.S. can't leave any forces behind

News Type: Event — Seeded on Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:33 PM EST

Article Source: mcclatchydc.com

The status of forces of agreement between the United States and Iraq is now called the withdrawal agreement, and that's exactly what it is: an ultimate end to the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq.

If Iraq's parliament endorses the agreement, in six weeks American forces would have to change the way they operate in Iraq, and all U.S. combat troops, police trainers and military advisers would have to leave the country by Dec. 31, 2011. President-elect Barack Obama's campaign plan to leave a residual force of some 30,000 American troops in Iraq would be impossible under the pact.

Unless the agreement is amended, which would require the formal written approval of both sides, in three years there no longer would be any legal basis for U.S. armed forces or civilian contractors of the Department of Defense to remain in Iraq.

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nearing

Ooh, that's got to piss Cheney off!

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3 votes

#1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:36 PM EST

{"commentId":4129171,"authorDomain":"SuperSaiyan"}

SuperSaiyan

To say the least...

As well as other supproters of the war.

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2 votes

#1.1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:46 PM EST

{"commentId":4128388,"authorDomain":"evey"}

Aminorityorarewe

i still can't understand if thers proof of this invasion being a crime why isnt bush or cheney feeling any heat they just know they are leaving and got away with it. what is IT! it is iraq, or warrentless wire tapping or take your pick witchever crime tikkles your fancy they've done it all. Basterds!

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4 votes

#2 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:54 PM EST

{"commentId":4130806,"authorDomain":"greenarcher170"}

bluearcher

No US troops left behind?

Doesn't that just guarantee the intervention of the "ineffective" UN at a later date? Another chance for all the divided nations to argue about Iraq.

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2 votes

#3 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:49 PM EST

{"commentId":4131006,"authorDomain":"markesanchez-marke"}

goldminor

So Iraq is about to be a country that governs itself now. Thats a good thing. Hopefully they can keep their nation a moderate one where the different groups can live in peace. A heavy price was paid by all to achieve this.

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4 votes

#4 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:02 PM EST

{"commentId":4131111,"authorDomain":"greenarcher170"}

bluearcher

Prediction. Iraq will not be a democracy in 10 years. It will be ruled by a Islamist govt. in much the same way as Iran.

The fanatics will eventually take over (with the aid of Iran and by coup if ness.) and there will be little secular support to prevent it.

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4 votes

#5 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:09 PM EST

{"commentId":4134049,"authorDomain":"markesanchez-marke"}

goldminor

Very possible. Have to say I always thought that we should just support the Kurds and let the others work it out themselves. MIght have gone that way too, except for our alliance with Turkey.

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4 votes

#5.1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:19 PM EST

{"commentId":4131462,"authorDomain":"kakael"}

kakael

i sure hope our troops aren't being put in a position like custers last stand...sounds like the iraqi's are taking their power back through this agreement...

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3 votes

#6 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:36 PM EST

{"commentId":4136374,"authorDomain":"Blearc"}

Blearc

Well I guess we can call it a victory and finish our other 2 tasks, finding Bin Ladens body and getting the Taliban out of Afganistan. If the Pakistanis want them they can have them, we just want bin Laden.

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2 votes

#7 - Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:42 AM EST

{"commentId":4139015,"authorDomain":"brywrigh"}

Marcashton

I agree our young men and women are under enough stress. We should concentrate our efforts we they should have been from the beginning, looking for Bin Laden.

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2 votes

#8 - Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:41 AM EST

{"commentId":4146158,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

nearing

I have this intuition thingy, and I am convinced that bin Laden is dead.

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2 votes

#8.1 - Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:09 PM EST

{"commentId":4147104,"authorDomain":"kakael"}

kakael

yep nearing...we are pursuing a ghost...that's why we can't see him...

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2 votes

#8.2 - Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:21 PM EST

{"commentId":4156580,"authorDomain":"charles-holden"}

Chuck Holden

While it's good news that we're discussing withdrawal with the Iraqis, it's ridiculous that the terms are "secret". This story includes a link to the full terms of the withdrawal:

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3 votes

#9 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:08 PM EST

{"commentId":4158420,"authorDomain":"charles-holden"}

Chuck Holden

Let's see if I the terms of withdrawal to post:

http://cantdriveit.blogspot.com/2008/11/full-text-of-secret-iraq-withdrawal.html

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#10 - Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:57 PM EST

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