Prominent neoconservative site (PNAC) goes under

News Type: Event — Seeded on Fri May 16, 2008 7:06 PM EDT

Article Source: Think Progress

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Eleven years ago, the neoconservative Project for a New American Century (PNAC) set out its statement of principles advocating the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, putting the country on the road to a preventative invasion of Iraq. Signatories included future Iraq war architects Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, and Elliott Abrams, as well as neoconservatives like Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan. From PNAC's statement of foreign policy goals:

"The history of the 20th century should have taught us that it is important to shape circumstances before crises emerge, and to meet threats before they become dire."

But just as the neocons are attempting to run from responsibility for the Iraq war, it appears PNAC may be abandoning its own website. Here's the message that greets visitors to PNAC's site:

"This Account Has Been Suspended"

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{"commentId":1810007,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

nearing

I knew this would be taken down before Bush term ended.

Good thing I have my own PDF file of Rebuilding Americas Defenses.

It may need to be used as evidence against Cheney et al. in the Hague someday.

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14 votes

#1 - Fri May 16, 2008 7:10 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810051,"authorDomain":"gumwars"}

Gumwars

Party is at my place! I'll get the fire going and we can roast weenies while checking out Dennis' latest Neocon Series work!!!

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7 votes

#2 - Fri May 16, 2008 7:20 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810106,"authorDomain":"paperdragon"}

Dennis P. McCann

Which I happened to publish just today!

What happened? They run out of money? If so, blame the Reptilian Overlord of Neocon Finance.

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9 votes

#2.1 - Fri May 16, 2008 7:31 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810487,"authorDomain":"JStranahan"}

Jimster

What happened? They run out of money?

Naw, they left to spend the Bush profits, overseas no doubt.

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5 votes

#2.2 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810516,"authorDomain":"spookybf"}

Spooky Boyfriend

Dennis, I find your art works ( those I have seen here in the 'Vineyard ) disturbing and ugly in a beautiful way ( or perhaps I mean disturbing and beautiful in a ugly way? ) and I look forward to viewing your whole body of political art. ( I know there is a much longer German word for it; I just can't think of it right now. )

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6 votes

#2.3 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:54 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810431,"authorDomain":"mariaque"}

Maria A. Quevedo

!! I had been trying to access it to add it as a link on a post dated April 19th and found I couldn't! I'm glad there's confirmation that its a worldwide obstruction - I was starting to worry I had been blacklisted by Big Brother! (hmmm... I may be suffering from delusions of grandeur)

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5 votes

#3 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:37 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810460,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

nearing

Well, that was an easy mistake to make. LOL!

I could send you the pdf file of the document I have by email if that helps. I don't have a website to upload it to.

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4 votes

#3.1 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:42 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810535,"authorDomain":"mariaque"}

Maria A. Quevedo

Great! Yes please! Just sent you a message.

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3 votes

#3.2 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:58 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810778,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

nearing

There you go, Maria. Enjoy(?)

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5 votes

#3.3 - Fri May 16, 2008 9:57 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810485,"authorDomain":"ombra"}

ombra

The only appropriate thing I can think of, is from the "Sound Of Music"

So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, good night,
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight. So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, adieu, Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

So long, farewell, Au'voir, auf wiedersehen, I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne So long, farewell, Auf wiedersehen, goodbye,
I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye, Good bye

Thankfully you don't have to hear me singing it.....

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6 votes

#4 - Fri May 16, 2008 8:47 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810671,"authorDomain":"simon-says"}

Simon L

Or they just haven't payed their hosting bills in time..

You can contact William Kristol, the owner of the site, and tell him to pay his bills:

Registrant Name:William Kristol
Registrant Organization:William Kristol
Registrant Street1:1150 17th Street, N. W., Suite 505
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Washington
Registrant State/Province:DC
Registrant Postal Code:20036
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2022934900
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.2024636652
Registrant Email: wkristol@weeklystandard.com

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7 votes

#5 - Fri May 16, 2008 9:33 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810784,"authorDomain":"fscott"}

Frank Scott

Luckily, we can still get the information about these neocon slimeballs, including a link to the PDF file "Rebuilding America's Defenses", at the links below:

"Rebuilding America's Defenses" – A Summary

The Project for the New American Century

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6 votes

#6 - Fri May 16, 2008 9:59 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810810,"authorDomain":"nearing"}

nearing

Thanks for that Frank!

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7 votes

#6.1 - Fri May 16, 2008 10:04 PM EDT

{"commentId":1814068,"authorDomain":"foolishgeorge"}

foolishgeorge

That's good to see that those damning pieces of drivel are still around. I loved the PNAC site, it was a great storehouse of ammunition. Neocons hate hearing their own words thrown back at 'em!

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5 votes

#6.2 - Sat May 17, 2008 10:55 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810791,"authorDomain":"NewDraper"}

NewDraper

Thanks for the article.

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3 votes

#7 - Fri May 16, 2008 10:00 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810922,"authorDomain":"RETLAW"}

RETLAW

Interesting article---thanks nearing

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3 votes

#8 - Fri May 16, 2008 10:26 PM EDT

{"commentId":1810923,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}

Cletus Wilbury

LOL,
so funny.

That was a gold mine for stuff to slam them with.

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3 votes

#9 - Fri May 16, 2008 10:26 PM EDT

{"commentId":1811147,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

magz

Just who were the people accusing other people of being cowards to "cut and run"? Well, looks like the rats have started to jump overboard. In the words of a once famous Knick (Michael Ray Richardson), "The ship be sinkin".

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5 votes

#10 - Fri May 16, 2008 11:23 PM EDT

{"commentId":1811178,"authorDomain":"superfive"}

ericfive

Mission accomplished?

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7 votes

#11 - Fri May 16, 2008 11:32 PM EDT

{"commentId":1811193,"authorDomain":"djehuty"}

Djehuty

Hmmm... so their work is starting to embarrass even them? Glad you have a copy, Frank.

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8 votes

#12 - Fri May 16, 2008 11:36 PM EDT

{"commentId":1812034,"authorDomain":"preesi"}

preesi

PNAC site hasnt been undated since 2005...

Two sites have replaced it

http://www.spp.gov/ http://www.aei.org/

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8 votes

#13 - Sat May 17, 2008 7:36 AM EDT

{"commentId":1813180,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

Martin Westenfelder

And don't forget this site:

whitehouse.gov

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5 votes

#13.1 - Sat May 17, 2008 4:26 PM EDT

{"commentId":1812190,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

Martin Westenfelder

Purging started?

Given the history of internet discussion boards, I guess in ten years from now we will see the following NV posts:

John: "Arf, PNAC never existed, its all some looney-lefty fantasy."

Jim: "WTF, now everybody knows about PNAC, Wolfie, Cheney. Where have you bean"

John: "Ooh yeah? Prove it - but not from your left-CT trouthout sites - real sites only. What's you've got? Nuthin' Go away"

Jim: "%&$"@#%"

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7 votes

#14 - Sat May 17, 2008 9:16 AM EDT

{"commentId":1812237,"authorDomain":"cletuswilbury"}

Cletus Wilbury

preesi -

Thanks for the correction. Anything of interest missing on the new sites, gang?

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1 vote

#15 - Sat May 17, 2008 9:45 AM EDT

{"commentId":1813220,"authorDomain":"preesi"}

preesi

SPP "Myths and Facts:"

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

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1 vote

#15.1 - Sat May 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT

{"commentId":1813239,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

Martin Westenfelder

LOL, everything missing, Cletus

Purge, purge, purge

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3 votes

#15.2 - Sat May 17, 2008 4:53 PM EDT

{"commentId":1813837,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Pamela Drew

Ooh la la, panic gripping a bunch of Mahogany Rowites. Very uncharacteristic to hit the highway without a Golden Parachutte in place. Hmm, folding the tent at this point sends a wrong message; like a cut and run thang. It sends the wrong kind of message, like the ship is sinking and the rats are running for their lives.

The image is captivating though, if nothing more than ecomaginary view. The paranoia as the movers and shakers are shaking a leg with the document security rolling in like food services, with the industrial shredders and burn bags and locked cages. Shred, secure storage and duplication decisions flying at them. I'd pitch in to help, free of charge if they'd have me.

So many papers and never enough time. No system is totally error proof and to know in your heart, that all of your %$#@ and lots of your associates, needs to be safe too. That's a lotta meatballs. Haste, human errors and %$#@ happens.

It's not a pretty site to see hand stitched suits and monogrammed cuff talent, reduced to passing out big magnets and screwdriver sets. The Tension Alert Level is raised to neon orange and heading for heart attack red. Tough times, re-cork the champagne, it is sooo sad to see the sun set on the PNAC era, as a freaking Alka Seltzer event. We the People need to recognize their efforts, formally.

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4 votes

#15.3 - Sat May 17, 2008 9:10 PM EDT

{"commentId":1813683,"authorDomain":"newbroom"}

newbroom

Their mission has been accomplished. The results are death, destruction, and debt. Why should they be proud of their having advocated for atrocity?

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3 votes

#16 - Sat May 17, 2008 7:55 PM EDT

{"commentId":1813794,"authorDomain":"mwestenfelder"}

Martin Westenfelder

Their mission is far from accomplished. They just temporarily hybernate.

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3 votes

#16.1 - Sat May 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT

{"commentId":1813852,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

Pamela Drew

They just temporarily hybernate.

For more than a century that's been the routine, but now that there's some Democracy in the access to public information.

My bet is that we see an historic shift, to actually tuning past the hot air and lip service to matching the Board Seats with the policy revenues. It's way quicker and totally bipartisan. That's fair!!

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5 votes

#16.2 - Sat May 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT

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